Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/18/2002 02:05 PM House FIN

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HOUSE BILL NO. 382                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the evaluation and cleanup of sites                                                                    
     where certain controlled substances may have been                                                                          
     manufactured or stored."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRETCHEN GUESS,  SPONSOR, testified in support                                                                   
of  the  legislation.  She  provided  members  with  proposed                                                                   
committee substitute,  work draft 22-LS1105\L,  4/17/02 (copy                                                                   
on file).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Harris MOVED to  ADOPT work draft 22-LS1105\L,                                                                   
4/17/02. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guess  explained  that  the  purpose  of  the                                                                   
legislation is  to ensure  that clandestine laboratories  are                                                                   
cleaned  up before  they are  reoccupied.  She observed  that                                                                   
when  a  methamphetamine  laboratory   is  "busted"  the  law                                                                   
enforcement  agency   sends  a  letter  to   the  residential                                                                   
property  owner  and  a  notice is  placed  on  the  building                                                                   
notifying that  illegal substances  were manufactured  on the                                                                   
site. The state  has not previously set  guidelines regarding                                                                   
the site cleanup  or tested sites in order to  make sure that                                                                   
they  are safe  before  they  are reoccupied.  A  residential                                                                   
owner  that didn't  care if  the  site was  cleaned up  could                                                                   
simply paint  and vacuum  before the  site was reoccupied.  A                                                                   
person  could   rent  a  former  methamphetamine   laboratory                                                                   
without  knowing. Residential  owners  that  want to  cleanup                                                                   
their sites have  no guidelines or directions.  In Juneau, an                                                                   
owner   that   could   not   disposed   of   methamphetamine-                                                                   
contaminated  furniture  at the  dump  ended  up burning  the                                                                   
hazardous material.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guess explained  that legislation  sets  up a                                                                   
process  to deal  with these  situations. The  owner must  be                                                                   
noticed [by  the Department  of Environmental  Conservation].                                                                   
The  owner   can  test  the   property  or  go   straight  to                                                                   
decontamination.    The    Department     of    Environmental                                                                   
Conservation   will  set  up   guidelines  for   testing  and                                                                   
decontamination to assure that  qualified individuals perform                                                                   
the services.  The Department  of Environmental  Conservation                                                                   
would also keep  a list of owners. There are  four substances                                                                   
identified    in    the    legislation:     lead,    mercury,                                                                   
methamphetamines, and volatile  organic compounds. The levels                                                                   
would  be  set  in  regulations.   It  would  be  a  class  A                                                                   
misdemeanor to knowingly rent,  lease, or occupy contaminated                                                                   
property.  The  legislation  would   not  take  affect  until                                                                   
regulations setting  levels for the four substances  are set.                                                                   
She observed that the program  would be cheaper to administer                                                                   
through  the Department  of Environmental  Conservation  than                                                                   
the Department of Health and Social Services.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster spoke in  support of the  legislation.                                                                   
He noted  the high costs of  travel and suggested  the fiscal                                                                   
note needed  to be increased.  Representative Guess  observed                                                                   
that the state  would not be responsible for  cleaning up the                                                                   
property. The  property owner  would be responsible,  but the                                                                   
state would set the guidelines  to ensure that a residence is                                                                   
safe. The  fiscal note  states that  $12 thousand dollars  is                                                                   
needed  to set  up the  process  and $2  thousand dollars  is                                                                   
needed for copying and communications with owners.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Lancaster  questioned   how  the  legislation                                                                   
would affect the Landlord Tenant Act.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
NATHAN JOHNSON,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  GUESS, testified  via                                                                   
teleconference.  He clarified that  there would be  no affect                                                                   
on landlord  tenant law,  because it would  be an act  of the                                                                   
state. Prohibition of future use  would be between the state,                                                                   
tenant and owner.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
JANICE  ADAIR, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF ENVIRONMENTAL  HEALTH,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT  OF  ENVIRONMENTAL   CONSERVATION,  testified  via                                                                   
teleconference.  She   noted  that  she  was   available  for                                                                   
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  JULIA   GRIMES,  DEPARTMENT  OF   PUBLIC  SAFETY,                                                                   
testified via  teleconference in support of  the legislation.                                                                   
The department's fiscal  note is zero. In the  last year, the                                                                   
state  of  Alaska  has  certified  an  additional  50  police                                                                   
officers  to  safely  investigate  lands  producing  the  end                                                                   
product of methamphetamine. She  observed that the department                                                                   
would identify  the site,  but that they  must be  cleaned by                                                                   
private   entities   with   hazardous   material   expertise.                                                                   
Laboratories  are  found  in   private  single-family  homes,                                                                   
storage units,  multi-family residential apartments,  trailer                                                                   
homes and other  locations all over the state  of Alaska. The                                                                   
people  cooking the  product are  untrained.  Recipes can  be                                                                   
found over the  Internet. Chemicals can be  spilled and found                                                                   
in carpets, sub-flooring,  ceiling tiles and  in other areas.                                                                   
Re-occupancy  can result  in chronic,  long-term exposure  to                                                                   
low levels of  very corrosive chemicals. Children  that spend                                                                   
time on the floor are especially  vulnerable to exposure. The                                                                   
legislation  would protect  public  health  and the  property                                                                   
owners.   Law  enforcement   currently   complies  with   the                                                                   
notification requirements  in the bill according  to parallel                                                                   
federal guidelines.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DETECTIVE  ED  BRYANT,  METRO  DRUG  UNIT,  ANCHORAGE  POLICE                                                                   
DEPARTMENT, testified  via teleconference  in support  of the                                                                   
legislation.  He   stressed  the  urgency  and   interest  in                                                                   
protecting  public safety.  He  noted that  rural areas  with                                                                   
fisheries are especially susceptible.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MARC  WOODARD,  ANCHORAGE POLICE  DEPARTMENT,  testified  via                                                                   
teleconference in support. He  emphasized that responsibility                                                                   
would be placed  where it belongs and innocent  persons would                                                                   
be protected.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TIM ROGERS, LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM  COORDINATOR, MUNICIPALITY OF                                                                   
ANCHORAGE,   ANCHORAGE,  testified   via  teleconference   in                                                                   
support  of the legislation.  He noted  that the  legislation                                                                   
would provide  protection for property owners  and safeguards                                                                   
for  the general  public. He  maintained  that public  safety                                                                   
issues out weigh the potential cost to property owners.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Bunde   noted  that   the  problem   is  growing.                                                                   
Lieutenant Grimes  observed that  Alaska law enforcement  has                                                                   
heeded  experiences  in other  areas  of the  United  States.                                                                   
Alaska  law enforcement  entities  have  taken an  aggressive                                                                   
stance. The  number of  laboratories has  dropped from  50 in                                                                   
2000 to 21/ in 2001.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster  MOVED to report CSHB 382  (FIN) out of                                                                   
Committee with  the accompanying fiscal note.  There being NO                                                                   
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CSHB (FIN)  was REPORTED  out of Committee  with a  "do pass"                                                                   
recommendation  and  with  two  previously  published  fiscal                                                                   
notes: DEC (#2) and DPS (#1).                                                                                                   

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